CH Products Pro Pedals USB Flight Simulator Pedals ( 300-111 )
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Customer Review: Correcting for Yaw
Summary: 5 Stars
In the world of flight simulation, there are many ways to pilot the aircraft that come with the programs. For a couple of years after getting my first computer, I was held to the keyboard and later adding the mouse for controlling various planes and helicopters. It wasn't to hard to control, but certainly not very realistic.
Having enough of those controls, I got a joystick with minimal axis control, but definitely better than the keyboard/mouse route. After a couple of computers along came a force feedback joystick with twist motion for yaw control. That was a great big step up in terms of precise control, especially on or near the ground. I still had to use buttons to handle differential breaking or braking at all, but it was really a time-saver in terms of steering the taxiways and multitude of runways at larger airports.
Today I own an iMac computer and I am using X-Plane version 9. The best part is however, I am on Day 3 with the CH Rudder Pedals. Unbelievable!!! Differential Toe Brakes, who would have thought that could be so great? And as in real-life aviation, I fly a VFR Skyhawk, I can see the position of the plane in a turn and add or lessen the amount of Rudder deflection. For an amateur Flight Sim enthusiast, you would be amazed at the control you now have. Reality never felt so REAL!
Customer Review: Won't Find Better IMHO
Summary: 4 Stars
Bottom Line, there are not too many choices for "real" flight pedals unless you can build them yourself. I think besides Saitech's, these are it.
I have used these pedals extensively for IL2, and have not had a problem with them yet.
These pedals:
1) Install easily on XP
2) Have a 7' cord giving you ample length to hook them up
3) Have a solid base (you may need to add some gripping rubber to hold them in place)
4) Large pedals to accommodate large feet and shoes
5) Enough weight and resistance to avoid jerky movements
5) Brake function
6) Accuracy
Not sure what else you need.
They could have even more resistance and smoother glide, I guess, but that would be extra frosting on a pretty nice cake.
For a flight sim I would recommend you get, in this order:
1) A good quality joystick
2) Track IR
3) These Pedals
Now, that ends up being around $300 or so all told, but if you are serious about your sim, it will be worth it. If you are a little bit more relaxed about it, you might want to look for a cheaper set, like in a steering wheel set, which could cost you $50 or less. Before these pedals I used ones from such a driving set that only cost me $20 on sale.
Customer Review: Toebrakes work perfectly in MS CFS2 and MS FS2002
Summary: 5 Stars
Under controller assignments 'assign axis' both Microsoft FS2002 and CFS2 menues allow assigning the up and down movement of the pedals to the toebrakes, right and left. Pushing (forwards and backwards) on pedals moves the rudder. It all works perfectly giving a variable analogue brake, the harder you push the more brake you apply. Taxiing the plane using rudder and brakes together works smooth and is easy to control. I velcroed the pedals to a large plywood sheet and attached the sheet to the desk legs with small angle brackets and machine screws. A large sheet so I could later move the pedals around to different positions on the board. I use this setup: Fighterstick USB, ThrottlePro USB, Pro Rudder Pedals USB, all CH branded. All 3 of these combine with CH's software to make one huge virtual device. So if you then go to Windows control panel's game control applet you see 1 device not 3. That one device has six axis and 32 buttons! Never calibrate it there (doing that will screw it all up). Instead ONLY calibrate it in the CH software.
I assigned those six axes to: 1 HorizStickX 2 VertStickY 3 Wheel on the stick (Fuel mixture lean/rich), 4 Throttle, 5 Right brake, 6 Left brake. FS2002 would let me assign them to other controls if I had prefered).
So far no problems with these fine CH products.
Customer Review: CH Products Yoke and Pedals
Summary: 4 Stars
This product worked great for me although if you are extremely serious about building a flight simulation center you will be paying several times more for the high end stuff.
The pedals have 2 issues, one being the fact that you have to find a way make them stay in place as they like to slide around on those occasions when you attempt a difficult landing. The other thing is the exit location for the USB cable is such that you must be careful to avoid pinching it if you would be inclined to place a board between the wall and the pedals to make them stay in place. I did pinch the cable once and they stopped working, which concerned me.
The yoke is great, if again it would stay in place. I used a fold up utility table to set up my fly room. So to assist the marginal clamping system that comes on the unit, I used Velcro tape on the underside of the front of the yoke to hold it down. That worked great, but if you are setting up flight school on the dining room table you may end up in negotiations with the wife. The yoke has plenty of programmable buttons and indeed it does take Flight Simulation to a new level.
Only other thing is to purchase a real good dual port video card with plenty of memory and add a couple more monitors and you're off..
Customer Review: CH Pro Pedals, my $0.02 worth
Summary: 4 Stars
I got into the CH hardware after my trusty TM F-22/TQS/RCS set up got to the point where it was too old and battered to be able to keep working correctly. I started with the Fighterstick and the Pro Throttle and within a week had placed my order for the pedals. So far they have worked well and withstood the effects of damp shoes, cats, dust, and so on. I have used them in Aces High 2 and the previous incarnation of Microsoft's Flight Sim and when combined with the CH yoke these pedals have also acted as racing controls in GTA2 and I have been extremely happy with them. I only gave the pedals 4 stars because, to me, they are a bit too narrow. Given that the pedals were designed to fill double duty as both a flight controller and as a driving accessory this is understandible and probably would not be a problem for anyone who had not started out on Thrustmaster's RCS. Another small problem has been that the left toe brake consistently has a stronger 'grab' than the right despite numerous calibrations but this is a managable problem. Overall these pedals are an excellent addition to any sim-pilot's flight control suite and well worth the purchase.