CH Products Pro Pedals USB Flight Simulator Pedals ( 300-111 )
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Customer Review: Works okay
Summary: 4 Stars
I've really enjoyed having rudder pedals for additional realism in my X-plane flight sim for Mac and these get the job done. My initial response to them was not so great because they have a kind of, I don't know, rut they get into when they are centered, so it takes additional effort to push them out of center position before you can control them smoothly. This bugged me because it's not like the real thing, but I can see that it would be hard to keep them centered otherwise. With some practice, I've been able to get over it a bit and in X-plane you can assign a "null zone" where control input doesn't have any affect, so that helps prevent jarring movements in the game as you try to push the pedals out of the rut.
I also do not like that they have a lip at the bottom of the pedals to hold your foot up. This, again, is not like the real thing and normally you keep your feet on the floor (like in driving a car) when you're flying an airplane and don't need the brakes, but again with a little practice you can get used to this. The pedals do push down at the top for braking (at the risk of sounding redundant, this too is not like the real thing, but that's okay). The pedals come with two odd looking pieces of plastic you can place in the pedal tracks to convert them for use in driving games, which is a nice touch. With those pieces in place, the pedals will not move and you can use then for gas and brake pedals.
Bottom line--like most electronic gadgets I've bought, these pedals are not as cool as I had expected they would be, but they get the job done. I would recommend them if you want to add an additional layer of realism to your flight sim for flight training or just the cool feeling of taxiing a 747 to the runway.
Customer Review: Good pedals for the price - but with a few important design flaws
Summary: 3 Stars
Overall a good set of pedals. Generally good responsiveness and was picked up by my games (FS9/Battlefield2) with no major issues. The cost is good since I think its the cheapest set of rudders out there. Construction pretty solid overall.
However, a couple of major annoyances for me.
First, the pedals are so light, its easy to push them around under your desk and get them misoriented which is a major pain when in the middle of a heated battle or sim situation.
Also, the heel cups are totally unrealistic as all real planes do not have them (your heel should just sit on the ground). I find that this means my legs are not totally relaxed like they are when I'm in a real Cessna, they're always a bit tensed up because you're having to keep them in the shoe cups.
And finally, and this is my biggest pet peeve: The spring back to center is very weak. This is a real pain because you're left having to "feel" for a center ridge click to know your rudders are centered again. If I'm not paying attention, the weight of my legs will cause one side or the other to push out slightly and affect my flying - hence why me legs are always tensed up.
At the end of the day they're still good overall. The sliding around issue could probably be fixed by mounting the system to something heavy or perhaps using Velcro to fix it to the carpet. Also I suppose one could hacksaw off the heel cups.. But I don't think there's a fix for the lack of spring to center forces... Honestly, if I could afford them, I'd rather own the Cirrus Rudder Pedals, but their also 5x the cost so... I eagerly anticipate the day where we can have pedals at a reasonable cost, and with solid (and realistic) performance
Customer Review: Good product--limited use
Summary: 4 Stars
I have a new Gateway 1.8 GHz computer, with 512 MB of RAM and my older Flightstick Pro was reluctant to work with the new machine, although it and the Pro Pedals both worked fine on the old AMD K6 (350)with Jane's WWII Fighters and other games.
So, I ordered a new pair of CH Pro Rudder Pedals for USB port connectors. Also a new Flightstick Pro USB. The Flightstick immediately worked fine, but Jane's WWII Fighters does not support the USB rudder pedals. Unfortunate, because in my opinion Jane's is the best simulator game around. Microsoft's Combat Flight Simulator 2 works fine with the USB devices, but you must go into settings after the game is running and set the assignments for the rudder pedals. First, remove all the assignments that may be currently assigned to the rudder pedals (typically ailerons and elevators --X and Y axes) and scroll down to rudder function and change assignment until it shows the Z axis (slider). The throttle will also show the Z axis. Don't worry about the apparent duplication. Both are sliders and both will work.
In a nutshell, the rudders work except for the toe brakes. So far there is no application (game) that supports CH's toe brake on the market, but they assure us that some will come along in the near future.
I like CH's products, perhaps because I've used them for years. I like the sliding function of the rudder pedals, which simulate an airplane's pedals very well. It's just too bad that they are ahead of the market, with a product that doesn't work on the older games. A solution looking for a problem.
Joseph H. Pierre
author of The Road to Damascus and other books
Customer Review: Very Disappointed
Summary: 1 Stars
Spent the extra $34 dollars for next day, (Friday) so that I would have the item to begin training simulation before I started my flight classes on Monday. Item was shipped without the attachment hooks for the desk. As a matter of fact, very crappy packaging. Contents of the box, the yoke. Yes, that is correct, no manual, no cd like it says on the outside of the box, no attachment hardware, etc. I got the cd because I actually ordered the accompanying pedals. However . . . it's the principal!
I called CH Products immediately. They laughed at first, and asked ME how it was possible that the contents did not make it to the box. After some frustration, they told me that they would ship it to me overnight and I would have it Saturday by 10am so that I could start training. Feeling now that they just wanted to get me off the phone, as it is currently 1:15pm and I have not seen a truck. I should have known better when the original kid that answered the phone sounded like he was at a summer job, bout' 14 I'd imagine?
My instructor actually suggested other hardware. I went beyond his recommendations and bought the CH stuff because of a couple reviews. What a mistake!
If you're thinking of the CH yoke and pedals for your simulation needs beware. Yes the product seems sturdy, however, it might appear that all they care about is getting the product out the door and not really concerned about satisfying the customers needs. Very poor.
Customer Review: CH Products
Summary: 5 Stars
Well, after owning Gameport versions of the F16 Fighterstick, Pro Rudder Pedals and Pro Throttle for 10 years I have decided to retire them and purchase the newer USB versions. Fedex delivered my lot in 4 days. WHEW!
Setup was easy. Windows XP (Pro is what I run) has everything needed to make them work. Plug and Play is all you have to do. Of course calibration is a prerequisite for operation.
The Fighterstick is modeled after a joystick found in a F16 Falcon. Has a very nice feel.
The toe brakes on the ch pro rudder pedals work perfectly. A must for taxiing a radial to the runway. The Pro Throttle glides real smooth. They've made some improvements since the Gameport controllers.
I've looked high and low for realistic flight controls and the only other that comes close is Thrustmaster. I like Ch Products design the best.
While the Pro Throttle isn't a true replica of an F16 throttle as modeled by Thrustmaster's HOTAS? Cougar, the ch pro throttle offers more versitility. Don't get me wrong, Thrustmaster makes good stuff. I want the versitility. I fly a wide range of aircraft, including helicopters.
Anyy way,... I won't say Ch is the best.... instead,...they are the best for me. Now all I need to do is get off my duff and build a flight simulator box to sit in with a good seat.
BTW... email Jane's/Electronic Arts and tell them to make a sequal to Fighter's Anthology!